Comments on: The High Price of High Altitude: Bolivia 6 – Argentina 1 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html World Cup South Africa 2010 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:51 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Grand Wrestling http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571285 Grand Wrestling Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:01:28 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571285 Hi there i want to exchange link your site my site is related to wrestling and i will be very thankful to you if you exchange link with my site Hi there i want to exchange link your site my site is related to wrestling and i will be very thankful to you if you exchange link with my site

]]> By: paceño http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571095 paceño Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:27:38 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571095 Albo, I am from LP. Thanks for the congrats, you are a good sport. I can't say I'm truly happy about the win. It's surely a gratifying change from being heart-broken about the more routine loss. It's still hard to fully enjoy this win given its intriguing sub-plots. Maybe the SA qualifiers have become overly arduous. Is anyone happy? Maybe Chile? I feel proud of the win because it could only have been possible with preparation and hard work. It was amusing and I smiled when I heard the aymara pride exhibited in the stands chanting-counting "maya, paya, quimsa; pusi, peskha, sojta". However, once the qualifiers are over, and assuming Argentina and not Bolivia would be travelling to Johannesburg, I and other paceños will be content with chanting, "Vamos vamos, Argentina, vamos vamos a ganar". Albo, I am from LP. Thanks for the congrats, you are a good sport. I can’t say I’m truly happy about the win. It’s surely a gratifying change from being heart-broken about the more routine loss. It’s still hard to fully enjoy this win given its intriguing sub-plots. Maybe the SA qualifiers have become overly arduous. Is anyone happy? Maybe Chile? I feel proud of the win because it could only have been possible with preparation and hard work. It was amusing and I smiled when I heard the aymara pride exhibited in the stands chanting-counting “maya, paya, quimsa; pusi, peskha, sojta”. However, once the qualifiers are over, and assuming Argentina and not Bolivia would be travelling to Johannesburg, I and other paceños will be content with chanting, “Vamos vamos, Argentina, vamos vamos a ganar”.

]]> By: Albo http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571078 Albo Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:34:25 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571078 Paceño, by your nickname I gather that you are from La Paz, Bolivia. I first want to congratulate your NT for a stunning performance against my Albicelestes. And second, I want to congratulate you for a great posting. Everybody who has an opinion about this and never took a walk at "El Alto" de la Paz should read it. Saludos y felicitaciones !!!! Paceño, by your nickname I gather that you are from La Paz, Bolivia.
I first want to congratulate your NT for a stunning performance against my Albicelestes.
And second, I want to congratulate you for a great posting.
Everybody who has an opinion about this and never took a walk at “El Alto” de la Paz should read it.
Saludos y felicitaciones !!!!

]]> By: paceño http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571076 paceño Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:42:12 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571076 I'm glad to see comments by fab, who presents logical reasons for the 6-1. For the last two qualifiers, DT Sanchez gambled on a tie in Colombia and a win at home against Argentina. Bolivia went to Bogota leaving seven players in La Paz to continue their preparation; including Botero, Martins, and Da Rosa who together scored five goals against Argentina. Although Bolivia executed the "Engenhao" strategy in Bogota, which earlier earned it one point against Brazil, they lost 2-0 in Colombia. Back in La Paz, the team embraced the urgency of the win against Argentina with a fully rested attack and a highly motivated attitude. It executed a suffocating strategy and came up with an unbelievably favorable result. It does not appear that Argentina prepared physically or mentally for the altitude. Was the team that played against Venezuela the same that played in La Paz? It has been said that Argentina, unlike Bolivia, can easily field two or three world-class teams. Why not do that against #8 Venezuela and #9 Bolivia and bet on 6 points? Maradona may have decided not to dwell on the effects of the altitude, apparently avoiding this topic with his players. Maybe he struggled to address this issue given his previous highly outspoken political support for Bolivia's campaign against FIFA's altitude ban. Only a few in his squad had ever played in the altitude. The tactic, which in retrospect seems stubborngly ineffective, was to attempt to play as in Buenos Aires. A negative result could have been anticipated, but evolved into a nightmare for Argentina and a barrage of goals for Bolivia. I saw Poland's National team play Bolivia in La Paz in 1977. Bolivia was preparing for a qualifier against Uruguay and had an impressive group of skilled and powerful players from the southeastern "chaco" lowlands, not one player was from the western altiplano. The Siles stadium was under repair and the game was played in Bolivar's Tembladerani, just shy of 4,000 meters. The phenomenally fit and strategically focused polish players persistenly outran the bolivians and opened up the field comfortably winning 3-1. A couple of weeks later, applying lessons from the Poland defeat, Bolivia beat Uruguay 1-0 in a qualifier in the same stadium, the historic goal involved two "chaqueño" players. Altitude is a factor that should be addressed, as any other field condition, with detailed planning and systematic preparation. Beyond that, there are always random events which will factor into the result, but that is what can make every game exciting and many results surprising. I’m glad to see comments by fab, who presents logical reasons for the 6-1. For the last two qualifiers, DT Sanchez gambled on a tie in Colombia and a win at home against Argentina. Bolivia went to Bogota leaving seven players in La Paz to continue their preparation; including Botero, Martins, and Da Rosa who together scored five goals against Argentina. Although Bolivia executed the “Engenhao” strategy in Bogota, which earlier earned it one point against Brazil, they lost 2-0 in Colombia. Back in La Paz, the team embraced the urgency of the win against Argentina with a fully rested attack and a highly motivated attitude. It executed a suffocating strategy and came up with an unbelievably favorable result.
It does not appear that Argentina prepared physically or mentally for the altitude. Was the team that played against Venezuela the same that played in La Paz? It has been said that Argentina, unlike Bolivia, can easily field two or three world-class teams. Why not do that against #8 Venezuela and #9 Bolivia and bet on 6 points? Maradona may have decided not to dwell on the effects of the altitude, apparently avoiding this topic with his players. Maybe he struggled to address this issue given his previous highly outspoken political support for Bolivia’s campaign against FIFA’s altitude ban. Only a few in his squad had ever played in the altitude. The tactic, which in retrospect seems stubborngly ineffective, was to attempt to play as in Buenos Aires. A negative result could have been anticipated, but evolved into a nightmare for Argentina and a barrage of goals for Bolivia.
I saw Poland’s National team play Bolivia in La Paz in 1977. Bolivia was preparing for a qualifier against Uruguay and had an impressive group of skilled and powerful players from the southeastern “chaco” lowlands, not one player was from the western altiplano. The Siles stadium was under repair and the game was played in Bolivar’s Tembladerani, just shy of 4,000 meters. The phenomenally fit and strategically focused polish players persistenly outran the bolivians and opened up the field comfortably winning 3-1. A couple of weeks later, applying lessons from the Poland defeat, Bolivia beat Uruguay 1-0 in a qualifier in the same stadium, the historic goal involved two “chaqueño” players.
Altitude is a factor that should be addressed, as any other field condition, with detailed planning and systematic preparation.
Beyond that, there are always random events which will factor into the result, but that is what can make every game exciting and many results surprising.

]]> By: Raoul http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571070 Raoul Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:07:47 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571070 fab and others don't mention nothing about bolivian players, 90% of bolivian players live and play at no more than 1000 meters, altitude is like hot and cold or high humidity enviroments, argentina and brazil are the only asociations that have problems with altitude it's time that like the other nations of south america these great teams put the ball in motion and left the bla bla bla... fab and others don’t mention nothing about bolivian players, 90% of bolivian players live and play at no more than 1000 meters, altitude is like hot and cold or high humidity enviroments, argentina and brazil are the only asociations that have problems with altitude it’s time that like the other nations of south america these great teams put the ball in motion and left the bla bla bla…

]]> By: fab http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571058 fab Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:54:05 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571058 dont get me wrong bolivia played well...but there claim to fame stays inside the walls of there mountain fortress as always in 4 months people will forget this (excpet maradona) and it will only bring bolivia a huge defeat in buenos aires as all the players are eager for revenge on fair grounds dont get me wrong bolivia played well…but there claim to fame stays inside the walls of there mountain fortress as always

in 4 months people will forget this (excpet maradona) and it will only bring bolivia a huge defeat in buenos aires as all the players are eager for revenge on fair grounds

]]> By: fab http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571057 fab Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:47:54 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571057 dear darth i also stated tactics you need to have tactics that revolve around every factor including things like altitude and weather i know its neat to think that Bolivia was just a better team but everyone on earth knows this to be untrue every sort of competitive sport should be fair grounds in every way it should be one team at its best vs another team at there best, to determine who has the talent to make it to the big stage..would this be unfair to say? i saw the game and i can tell you Argentina looked slow and each player was sweating like pigs.. while a lot of Bolivian players live and play in Bolivia they say it takes up to 30 days to fully get used to such a high change of altitude and as an althlete myself i cant ell you nothing is worse than having to perform phisical activity after a flight and with such thin air to ad on top of that maradona should have seen that as a huge factor dear darth

i also stated tactics

you need to have tactics that revolve around every factor including things like altitude and weather

i know its neat to think that Bolivia was just a better team but everyone on earth knows this to be untrue

every sort of competitive sport should be fair grounds in every way

it should be one team at its best vs another team at there best, to determine who has the talent to make it to the big stage..would this be unfair to say?

i saw the game and i can tell you Argentina looked slow and each player was sweating like pigs.. while a lot of Bolivian players live and play in Bolivia

they say it takes up to 30 days to fully get used to such a high change of altitude

and as an althlete myself i cant ell you nothing is worse than having to perform phisical activity after a flight and with such thin air to ad on top of that

maradona should have seen that as a huge factor

]]> By: Big-D http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571048 Big-D Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:29:01 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571048 i think that Bolivia just won fair and square, it only proves that no team has respect for the big teams anymore instead of finding excuses to Argentina's defeat they should consider that maybe, just maybe the small team are getting better. i think that Bolivia just won fair and square, it only proves that no team has respect for the big teams anymore
instead of finding excuses to Argentina’s defeat they should consider that maybe, just maybe the small team are getting better.

]]> By: elliot http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571041 elliot Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:44:43 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571041 Few things in life give me more pleasure than seeing argentina loose, but to get thrashed in a game to the tune of 6 -1…well I’m over the moon. good job Bolivia Few things in life give me more pleasure than seeing argentina loose, but to get thrashed in a game to the tune of 6 -1…well I’m over the moon. good job Bolivia

]]> By: Angelo http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-571040 Angelo Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:22:40 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/the-high-price-of-high-altitude-bolivia-6-argentina-1.html#comment-571040 Funny how the coach of the losing team says it was a great performance by the Bolivians and that they were prepared. yet a blogger comes out and blames it on elevation. hahaahahhaha, look at "Darth"'s first post. its called preparation. Funny how the coach of the losing team says it was a great performance by the Bolivians and that they were prepared. yet a blogger comes out and blames it on elevation. hahaahahhaha, look at “Darth”’s first post.
its called preparation.

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