Comments on: Should Footballers Be Allowed to Celebrate With Religion? http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html World Cup South Africa 2010 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:51 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Valerio http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572684 Valerio Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:58:04 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572684 Fifa is complaining about Brazil because Brazilians are Christians but Fifa is not complaining about Egypt because Fifa (like the rest of the Western World) is scared of Islam. Double standards and PC world, welcome to the future. Fifa is complaining about Brazil because Brazilians are Christians but Fifa is not complaining about Egypt because Fifa (like the rest of the Western World) is scared of Islam.

Double standards and PC world, welcome to the future.

]]> By: Ramirez http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572682 Ramirez Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:57:02 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572682 Giampero: One of the reasons people didn't like him. Sorry. William: Fair point but changing the channel is not really an option because the team is a national symbol, therefore represents all the people. It is not the same thing as watching a TV show you don't like. Brazilians have been celebrating with religious manifestations for a long time. Ive lost count how many times Ive seen a player score a goal and celebrate with the sign of the cross. My guess is that people didnt complain back then because It was not as EXTREME as it is nowadays, as a couple of people in these comments have pointed out. Giampero: One of the reasons people didn’t like him. Sorry.

William: Fair point but changing the channel is not really an option because the team is a national symbol, therefore represents all the people. It is not the same thing as watching a TV show you don’t like.

Brazilians have been celebrating with religious manifestations for a long time. Ive lost count how many times Ive seen a player score a goal and celebrate with the sign of the cross. My guess is that people didnt complain back then because It was not as EXTREME as it is nowadays, as a couple of people in these comments have pointed out.

]]> By: Willian Santos http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572673 Willian Santos Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:05:24 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572673 Oh come on! Now people are moving away from the main focus that was about our national team expressing their faith to the matter "are all the other faiths being represented as well"? I doubt these people know anything about our vast multicultural background which makes it fairly clear that you bet our team has got representatives from most major religions (what to say about Dan Alves jumping 3 times before joining the game? Afro regligion ritual, pal!) Anyways, what the whole world saw was FIFA's Top Team on their knees praying in an ecumenical moment when some of the most successful Christians players these days were wearing a "Jesus' T-shirt". No harm, no threat, no TNT attached to their chest! Now, the viewers were as free as anyone else to change the flipping channel and watch whatever they wanted!I cant believe people saying: "I had been exposed to something I didn't belive in" !!! If that's not the most stupid, retrogade and selfish mentallity I don't what's it then! Oh come on! Now people are moving away from the main focus that was about our national team expressing their faith to the matter “are all the other faiths being represented as well”?

I doubt these people know anything about our vast multicultural background which makes it fairly clear that you bet our team has got representatives from most major religions (what to say about Dan Alves jumping 3 times before joining the game? Afro regligion ritual, pal!)

Anyways, what the whole world saw was FIFA’s Top Team on their knees praying in an ecumenical moment when some of the most successful Christians players these days were wearing a “Jesus’ T-shirt”. No harm, no threat, no TNT attached to their chest!

Now, the viewers were as free as anyone else to change the flipping channel and watch whatever they wanted!I cant believe people saying: “I had been exposed to something I didn’t belive in” !!!

If that’s not the most stupid, retrogade and selfish mentallity I don’t what’s it then!

]]> By: Giampiero http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572668 Giampiero Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:43:45 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572668 Ramirez do you even know what you're talking about. We didn't like George W. Bush, even though he got more than 50% of the vote, because of his policies. His religion had nothing to do with it, in fact that's the reason he won. Ramirez do you even know what you’re talking about. We didn’t like George W. Bush, even though he got more than 50% of the vote, because of his policies. His religion had nothing to do with it, in fact that’s the reason he won.

]]> By: Ramirez http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572667 Ramirez Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:25:25 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572667 Also, let's not forget that: typical politically correct behaviour = "Oh it's their faith, it's called freedom of expression, if you complain about it you are persecuting their religion!" Associating a national symbol to a single religious faith IS NOT freedom of speech! Ok, I'm done. Also, let’s not forget that: typical politically correct behaviour = “Oh it’s their faith, it’s called freedom of expression, if you complain about it you are persecuting their religion!”

Associating a national symbol to a single religious faith IS NOT freedom of speech!

Ok, I’m done.

]]> By: Applesauce http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572664 Applesauce Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:59:01 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572664 I'm sick of this political correct bullshit. Freedom of expression affords them the right to celebrate in anyway they see fit barring it does not directly attack another. If it offends your personal sensibilities, grow a pair of balls. On the other hand, stop peddling your shit to others. I don't give a flying fuck if you worship some bloke named Jesus, Satan or Batman. It's called personal faith for a reason. Unsolicited religious recruitment makes me as sick as the people who think that this should be an issue. How's that for acerbic? :D I’m sick of this political correct bullshit. Freedom of expression affords them the right to celebrate in anyway they see fit barring it does not directly attack another. If it offends your personal sensibilities, grow a pair of balls.

On the other hand, stop peddling your shit to others. I don’t give a flying fuck if you worship some bloke named Jesus, Satan or Batman. It’s called personal faith for a reason. Unsolicited religious recruitment makes me as sick as the people who think that this should be an issue.

How’s that for acerbic? :D

]]> By: Bruna http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572661 Bruna Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:30:22 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572661 Actually let them glorify God if they want to and I would too if I played in the field who cares! If its not hurting you physical why should it matter to you! Jesus needs to be heard and that is why God blesses them because we glorify Him no one wonder why Brazil is the best team player =] Actually let them glorify God if they want to and I would too if I played in the field who cares! If its not hurting you physical why should it matter to you! Jesus needs to be heard and that is why God blesses them because we glorify Him no one wonder why Brazil is the best team player =]

]]> By: Ramirez http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572660 Ramirez Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:11:55 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572660 We have separation of church and state. Should be the same thing with football, Barry. I wouldn't like to watch a political figure talking about God all the time. That's why a lot of people in the US didn't like George W. Bush. What has politics to do with a national football team? They both represent the entire population of a country (or at least should) Sorry, but associating a national symbol to a single religious faith is not freedom of speech. It's quite the contrary. And btw, the cross on Brazil's football badge is an Order of Christ Cross, an old symbol that dates back to the time when Brazil was a portuguese colony. The religious meaning has been lost a long time ago. We have separation of church and state. Should be the same thing with football, Barry.

I wouldn’t like to watch a political figure talking about God all the time. That’s why a lot of people in the US didn’t like George W. Bush.

What has politics to do with a national football team? They both represent the entire population of a country (or at least should)

Sorry, but associating a national symbol to a single religious faith is not freedom of speech. It’s quite the contrary.

And btw, the cross on Brazil’s football badge is an Order of Christ Cross, an old symbol that dates back to the time when Brazil was a portuguese colony. The religious meaning has been lost a long time ago.

]]> By: Barry http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572655 Barry Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:19:55 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572655 Freedom of expression = Freedom of speech = Freedom of religion = Freedom to express one's expression about their religion. PC people can go jump off a cliff for all I care. If my pub team ever makes it to a grand final, I am going to get one of these "I belong to Jesus" shirts and wear it with pride! Freedom of expression = Freedom of speech = Freedom of religion = Freedom to express one’s expression about their religion. PC people can go jump off a cliff for all I care. If my pub team ever makes it to a grand final, I am going to get one of these “I belong to Jesus” shirts and wear it with pride!

]]> By: Ramirez http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html/comment-page-1#comment-572635 Ramirez Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:45:57 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/should-footballers-be-allowed-to-celebrate-with-religion.html#comment-572635 "It was a simply recognition that nothing is done without union and faith in the One who makes all things possible and is the source of any good thing we see and do." It is your oppinion, William. In Brazil there are many people who don't believe in God. Are they represented by this mostly pentecostal team as well? Cause I'm not so sure about this. What about a brazilian jew, or a brazilian that follows an african religion? Are they represented? Should they ban these celebrations? Maybe that would be too harsh, but the players should at least have the common sense not to engage in a disguised indoctrination of their faith after they win a championship. “It was a simply recognition that nothing is done without union and faith in the One who makes all things possible and is the source of any good thing we see and do.”

It is your oppinion, William. In Brazil there are many people who don’t believe in God. Are they represented by this mostly pentecostal team as well? Cause I’m not so sure about this.

What about a brazilian jew, or a brazilian that follows an african religion? Are they represented?

Should they ban these celebrations? Maybe that would be too harsh, but the players should at least have the common sense not to engage in a disguised indoctrination of their faith after they win a championship.

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