Comments on: FIFA v UEFA: The Rankings Of Doom Are Doomed. http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html World Cup South Africa 2010 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:51 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Miguel http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574327 Miguel Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:20:49 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574327 Come'on Ryan! If you're like that and the game hasn't even begun, how will you get after seeing the ref blow the whistle for every dive they do in your box? I think Trapattoni is a hell of a lot smarter then Dumbenech so who knows... Come’on Ryan! If you’re like that and the game hasn’t even begun, how will you get after seeing the ref blow the whistle for every dive they do in your box? I think Trapattoni is a hell of a lot smarter then Dumbenech so who knows…

]]> By: Ryan McManus http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574319 Ryan McManus Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:30:33 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574319 Another injustice to Ireland! Another injustice to Ireland!

]]> By: Pedro http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574306 Pedro Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:41:22 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574306 Is Football unpredictable? True. Are FRA, UKR and RUS as good as through? Yes. I still hope IRL kicks FRA's ass and with an italian coach, they just might... They're unbeaten still. :-) Is PT through? Nobody knows... I hope we go through. Could PT easily beat RUS in 10 straight matches? Dunno. Maybe, if they could be bothered to actually play. Maybe not, we've always tended to have trouble with the russians (although we did kick their ass 7-1)... But RUS didn't really impress me in the least in euro 08. Largely overrated. maybe like PT, who knows but the nose...? Is RUS's coach some sort of football genius? Hell no. He's very good but he's not Mourinho. Is PT better than RUS? Hell ya!!! Any time. Is this biased? Of course. Like all comments are. It's not a thesis. It's a comment. Is it true? Can't you bloody see it...? If you can't, it's a pointless discussion... S America (iberian america), Africa, PT, SPA + eventually the balkans, will always be the best football in the world + cosmos... Força PT. Is Football unpredictable? True.

Are FRA, UKR and RUS as good as through? Yes. I still hope IRL kicks FRA’s ass and with an italian coach, they just might… They’re unbeaten still. :-)

Is PT through? Nobody knows… I hope we go through.

Could PT easily beat RUS in 10 straight matches? Dunno. Maybe, if they could be bothered to actually play. Maybe not, we’ve always tended to have trouble with the russians (although we did kick their ass 7-1)… But RUS didn’t really impress me in the least in euro 08. Largely overrated. maybe like PT, who knows but the nose…?

Is RUS’s coach some sort of football genius? Hell no. He’s very good but he’s not Mourinho.

Is PT better than RUS? Hell ya!!! Any time.

Is this biased? Of course. Like all comments are. It’s not a thesis. It’s a comment.

Is it true? Can’t you bloody see it…? If you can’t, it’s a pointless discussion… S America (iberian america), Africa, PT, SPA + eventually the balkans, will always be the best football in the world + cosmos…

Força PT.

]]> By: Jose http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574301 Jose Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:45:21 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574301 "Point being: football is unpredictable mate." Ok, it's fair to fall back on that. Would a series of 10 matches (5 @ home each) make a difference to you? My point being that a simple A > B analysis of two teams like Portugal and Russia makes no sense, "mate". “Point being: football is unpredictable mate.”

Ok, it’s fair to fall back on that. Would a series of 10 matches (5 @ home each) make a difference to you?

My point being that a simple A > B analysis of two teams like Portugal and Russia makes no sense, “mate”.

]]> By: Seth http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574300 Seth Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:24:24 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574300 "Is Portugal better than Russia? No." Lol, Russia is beyond overrated as of late. But to acknowledge your convincing point: Euro 00: Portugal semis, Russia fail Euro 04: Portugal 2nd, Russia fail WC 2006: Portugal 4th, Russia fail That's just history. But if the two teams were to meet today? I'm sure Portugal would be more than a match for a Russian side that got beat by a very deflated and dull Argentine side. "We’re not talking about who has traditionally been a more well-regarded footballing nation, because most would argue Portugal has some edge over Russia there. But I would tell you that most informed football fans would give Russia 60/40 chances to beat Portugal today. It’s definitely not as obvious as a “Hell Yes!” for Portugal." The most informed football fans also had England winning the WC in 2006 after Brazil or Greece not getting out of their group stage in Euro 04. Point being: football is unpredictable mate. “Is Portugal better than Russia? No.”

Lol, Russia is beyond overrated as of late. But to acknowledge your convincing point:

Euro 00: Portugal semis, Russia fail
Euro 04: Portugal 2nd, Russia fail
WC 2006: Portugal 4th, Russia fail

That’s just history. But if the two teams were to meet today? I’m sure Portugal would be more than a match for a Russian side that got beat by a very deflated and dull Argentine side.

“We’re not talking about who has traditionally been a more well-regarded footballing nation, because most would argue Portugal has some edge over Russia there. But I would tell you that most informed football fans would give Russia 60/40 chances to beat Portugal today. It’s definitely not as obvious as a “Hell Yes!” for Portugal.”

The most informed football fans also had England winning the WC in 2006 after Brazil or Greece not getting out of their group stage in Euro 04. Point being: football is unpredictable mate.

]]> By: Musab http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574299 Musab Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:43:44 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574299 Well done to the Turks who managed to fall 12 spots into 37th place... An absolute disgrace. Well done to the Turks who managed to fall 12 spots into 37th place… An absolute disgrace.

]]> By: Jose http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574297 Jose Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:45:35 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574297 "You can’t base a ranking on the last 10 or 12 games a NT does against a small number of other teams. For it to truly reflect anything it has to include performances at big stages." Actually no. You base who's better on how they've been doing in the last year or so. And Russia has definitely looked better than Portugal in the Euro 2008 and in WCQ qualifying. Russia did better than Portugal in the Euro, getting to the semis only to be bested by the eventual champions. On their way, they beat the Netherlands, Greece and Sweden (Portugal beat Czech Rep. and Turkey, neither who classified for this WC). We're not talking about who has traditionally been a more well-regarded footballing nation, because most would argue Portugal has some edge over Russia there. But I would tell you that most informed football fans would give Russia 60/40 chances to beat Portugal today. It's definitely not as obvious as a "Hell Yes!" for Portugal. “You can’t base a ranking on the last 10 or 12 games a NT does against a small number of other teams. For it to truly reflect anything it has to include performances at big stages.”

Actually no. You base who’s better on how they’ve been doing in the last year or so. And Russia has definitely looked better than Portugal in the Euro 2008 and in WCQ qualifying.

Russia did better than Portugal in the Euro, getting to the semis only to be bested by the eventual champions. On their way, they beat the Netherlands, Greece and Sweden (Portugal beat Czech Rep. and Turkey, neither who classified for this WC).

We’re not talking about who has traditionally been a more well-regarded footballing nation, because most would argue Portugal has some edge over Russia there. But I would tell you that most informed football fans would give Russia 60/40 chances to beat Portugal today. It’s definitely not as obvious as a “Hell Yes!” for Portugal.

]]> By: Elliott http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574296 Elliott Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:18:18 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574296 While I´m sure you were joking, I am actually a fan of abolishing seedings for the big tournaments and leaving it all to good old fashioned bouncing ball chance. So what if Italy, Argentina, and Brazil are all in the same group? The top teams would have to meet in the later stages anyway. While I´m sure you were joking, I am actually a fan of abolishing seedings for the big tournaments and leaving it all to good old fashioned bouncing ball chance. So what if Italy, Argentina, and Brazil are all in the same group? The top teams would have to meet in the later stages anyway.

]]> By: Jack http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574294 Jack Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:05:20 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574294 The rankings are only used for seeding purposes. Without rankings you would end up watching a World Cup final between Vietnam and Swaziland. How many people would watch that? The rankings are only used for seeding purposes. Without rankings you would end up watching a World Cup final between Vietnam and Swaziland. How many people would watch that?

]]> By: Dave Troter http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html/comment-page-1#comment-574293 Dave Troter Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:59:46 +0000 http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-football/fifa-v-uefa-the-rankings-of-doom-are-doomed.html#comment-574293 The FIFA rankings are crap. I am a France supporter and, honestly, they shouldn't have moved up at all, yet they move up one. The Czech Republic move up three, yet are knocked out of the World Cup. These rankings don't go by the quality of play at all, which means that it is full of errors. After France beat the Faroe Islands by a score of 1-0 a few months back, they should have dropped at least 10 spots! I think these rankings are garbage, just like they are in the BCS in college football! The FIFA rankings are crap. I am a France supporter and, honestly, they shouldn’t have moved up at all, yet they move up one.

The Czech Republic move up three, yet are knocked out of the World Cup.

These rankings don’t go by the quality of play at all, which means that it is full of errors. After France beat the Faroe Islands by a score of 1-0 a few months back, they should have dropped at least 10 spots!

I think these rankings are garbage, just like they are in the BCS in college football!

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