Were France Robbed by Rosetti?

Lloris says: “I was very surprised because there was no contact.”

Really? Why even ask the question when the video above clearly shows that he did, in fact, trip Zigic?

Dude, john, there is no contact with the Serbian player. Watch the reverse angle. Maybe you could make a case for contact, but trip? Awful refereeing. The idea of giving someone like Hugo Lloris a red card is shocking to me in any circumstances. He’s the kind of keeper who would NEVER do anything warranting a red.

Then he tries to make up for the huge error that he made by sending off the serbian player for a minor foul on Sagna into extra time, in which was too late.
Absolutely horrible over reaction to the penalty by red carding Lloris.
I have no idea why FIFA so stubbornly refuses replays.
Even though with 10 men France outplayed them and had a lot of good chances to seal the deal.
Thanks Mr. Rosetti !!!

As incredible as it sounds (since L’Equipe sees roughly 5 major refereeing mistakes per match), L’Equipe agreed that it was a foul and warranted a red card because Lloris was denying a clear goalscoring opportunity.

Now will FIFA have the guts like UEFA to suspend the Serbian player for two games much like the Eduardo case against the Celtics? NOT!

@ Shazback, have a closer look at the replay instead of L’equipe trying to sell papers. Please have a good look at the reverse angle there is no contact hence no penalty and no red card.

Apparently this penalty is some sort of Rorschach test.

Any controversial incident ends up being it.

From a neutral point of view, it does look like there was no contact, particularly in the reverse view. I’m not sure why Daryl claimed this was France being robbed by Rosetti though…it seems more of a case of the Serbian player conning him with a dive.

Alessio, the conversation Daryl and I had about it was: Why in the world would FIFA put an Italian in a situation where he has WC-or-no power? It’s lose-lose in this situation.

It looked like contact, but it didn’t look deliberate. Definitely wasn’t a dive either way because the nastiness of how he went down and how clear he was on goal would have made it the single dumbest dive in the world (why go down in a potentially injury causing fashion with an open net in front of you). Plus none of that face-clutching bullshit, rather a “whoa, that was a bad roll”.

I suspect ref felt similarly, but there really are few options when you trip someone from behind when they are clear on goal, especially when you make them go down like that. I don’t think Lloris meant it and certainly wouldn’t have felt much contact, but still, yeech. More a red card for how nasty he went rather than how deliberate the foul…could have been career-ending.

Would an Englishman or a Brazilian cause such suspicion, Laurie? Or a German? Let’s be honest, most western European countries have a negative relationship with the French. I full well understand the Italy-France rivalry, but I guess the question is if Uefa believed Rosetti could referee without bias. Clearly, they thought he could. At this point though, I think the French need to think about other reasons for their lethargic performances.

This performance was hardly lethargic!

I didn’t watch, I mean any qualifying in where France has a +2 goal differential and is struggling for 2nd place.

Regarding UEFA playoff, how many will go to WC2010?

Aku, four second place teams will advance. (More details in the comments on the France page.)

Also, for anybody who’s still not sure, here’s the video from the France Football Federation website with multiple high-res slo-mo replays. http://www.fff.fr/mediatheque/bleu/530374.shtml

A little background on Rosetti. He was unscathed by the Italian Scandal of 2006 because he was said to have “too much integrity” to “make the right kind of calls.”

He’s not a cheat, if anything he made a very human mistake.

Still, if France were robbed or not, the situation is not as controversial as the Switzerland vs. Greece game over the weekend. UEFA’s, and Switzerland’s favourite ref, Frank De Bleeckere handing out a red card to Greek defender Loukas Vyntra just before the half for absolutely nothing.

See for yourself over at the Greece Blog: http://greece.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-qualifying/video-response-was-it-worth-a-red.html

Dive, dive, dive. But in all honesty – the referee has no choice other than to give this a penalty and an automatic red card – there is no such thing as “oh, it was early, a pen is ennough” etc in the rules. Clear goalscoring opportunity = straight red. BUT, it was a dive and Zigic should be suspended for 2 games. Will UEFA/FIFA do so? No. Because they are hypocritical, inconsistent, myopic retards.

it was a penalty and a red card, Lloris brought down Zigic, although he didnt mean it, he did touch him. All that nonsense about Rosetti being biased, well if you know your facts, Rosetti was, with Collina, the only ref in Italy to stand up against Luciano Moggi and Juventus and was born in Piedmont which borders on France.

ROSSETTI DID NOT ROB FRANCE.
ZIGIC ROBBED FRANCE WITH HIS DISGUSTING DIVE AND THE LINESMAN AS WELL.

JUST LIKE THE FRENCH TO WHINE ABOUT REFFING.

To everyone who included the words “no contact” in their comment: you don’t need to touch a player to commit a foul. If you use your body to impede an opponent without playing the ball, you are guilty of obstruction. As soon as Lloris stuck out his arms in front of Zigic’s legs and didn’t reach the ball, it was a penalty and a red unless Zigic somehow managed to still score.

To everyone who included the word “dive” in their comment: if you think Zigic should have hurdled over Lloris’s arms while letting the ball run away from him instead of going down like he did, then I have some lucrative business propositions for you.

I agree with Daryl in that everyone who wants to see a dive will see one. I have a problem with the ‘if you look at the reverse angle’ argument – because it seemed clear enough from the initial angle there was in fact contact: watch Zigic’s ankle and tell me if you could make yours do that in mid air. As for the reverse angle, watch the leading, not the trailing hand. It’s hard to see because of the color of the keeper’s glove, but it’s still there: Contact. In any event, yevy is correct – fair call. Stop complaining.

But for the last time: Watch the LEADING HAND, not the trailing. 100% clear contact and foul.

Watch the leading hand, not the trailing hand. It’s a little hard to see it, because of the color of the keepers glove, but it’s obvious enough. Anyone who, after watching the goalie’s LEADING hand closely, still doesn’t see it, just doesn’t want to, and probably never will.

Leading hand, underhand, overhand, still was a very very dubious call, and the red card to boot. Almunia made the same mistake two weeks ago and was only awarded a yellow! If you’re Anti-France that’s one thing but that was a an awful call. Not even a N.B.A. referee would call that contact.
Not even in the freaking N.B.A. that would be called contact.
Sorry I watched it as you said how the color of the glove is deceiving the eye, but the player had already decided to go down, to get the penalty,
TOUCHDOWN ZIGIC.

Rossetti is blind. Same guy who reffed the Euro 08 final. Ballack should have been sent off and yet to make up for his mistake denied the Jerries a chance for an equaliser in the dying minutes.