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Six Goals and Still Not Impressed

   

I was personally left breathless yesterday after Argentina put six up against Serbia and Montenegro. I thought the first half performance by Argentina was the best display of football we have seen thus far in the tournament. While I am not ready to hand the trophy to Argentina quite yet, I can’t help but think they are going to advance far in this competition. Which is why I was so interested in the following post that was emailed to me from a reader named Piotr. He breaks down each of the six goals and comes to some interesting conclusions. You can decide if you agree or disagree.

Piotr’s thoughts:

Being strangely appalled by a 6-0 win of Argentina over S&M (not that it really matters to me as I said in numerous posts on the website), I just couldn’t’ help to watch the replays of the goals one by one in slow motion and from different angles. Contrary to the excitement of fans and the rave about a superior win, here are some materials for you guys if you would ever consider opening a topic of “MOST CONTROVERSIAL CALLS/GOAL/GAMES OF WC 06”

As such, the win over Serbia seems to be somehow strangely affected and skewed in time’s perspective.

Why?

Goal #1 – Opening goal, looks like nothing special but a mistake from the goalie. Well, let’s just look how the goalie positioned himself and in which direction he dived – totally opposite to the direction of the goal (he was diving toward side line!) despite the fact that he was already past the goal’s outermost line! No biggie, I guess that can happen to everyone, but keep in mind the style of diving he does on this goal

Goal #2 – Notice how he gives up reaching as soon as the ball is close to him! In the replay video, he clearly retreats his hand not to interfere with the ball’s path (not to mention that my 2 year old could do a better job at jumping to the ball). Oddly, he knew exactly where the ball was going, but stayed glued to the ground with no intention of reaching the ball!

Goal #3 – The most controversial goal of the game. First, the Serbian player gets fouled right in front of the ref (no free kick is called!), then the ball is played toward the goal. After the goal keeper dives to “stop” the ball, he is not too quick to get up and run to where the action is. As a matter of fact, he decides to stroll down there instead of running. Now, to top the pie, check out how the ball ricochets from the post and runs along the goal line only to be kicked in by no other than GAVRANCIC who jumps up right after kicking it. What happened to saving the goals by kicking the ball out, not in? Beats, me, but FIFA officially gave this goal to Argentineans instead of a self-goal.

Goal #4 – Another self-punishment. This time STANKOVIC nails this one in, and official report says that Crespo did it, even though he did not even touch the ball!

Goals #5 and 6 are just repeats of the same kind of dive as #1. Funny how JEVRIC dived in the opposite direction of where the ball was actually going always lifting his leg up so that the ball slips right between his legs.

Now, I am not saying that this was fixed, perhaps poorly played, but definitely controversial. Again, not that it matters to me one way or other but I just don’t like to see how the public is getting fed infatuated lies to elevate the status of something ordinary (or even appalling if you would try to believe that there could be a foul play at hand such as bribery to top the group or other insane ideas…)


  • silver_blaise

    i agree with the 4th goal comments: from all the replays in the game it looked like Stankovic made a spectacular own goal… didn’t see Crespo’s leg near it at ALL!

  • Juan

    The first own goal was completely unintentional. The ball ricochetes off the post and the defender as no time to react to it. He lifts one leg but it hits the other and goes in.

    The second own goal is a little suspicious…not really sure what he was trying to do, but Crespo might have gotten a toe poke in, and the defender was maybe trying to shield it?

  • http://fifaworldcup.sporati.com Milo Riano

    What’s with the breakdown? Diego had the hand of God to win a World Cup. And if you look at all the goals in the tournament I bet you can come up with a negative explanation that could devalue the goal. 6 goals is still 6 goals.

  • Bidemi

    Peckerman has very deep pockets.

  • http://www.aresthetics.ch/trav Adrian Wagner

    I agree with Milo Riano.

    One thing that you have to take into considerations with those ‘lucky/controversial’ goals is, that you first have to work the ball towards the goal, before you can have ‘luck’ with it going in.
    In my opinon it’s absolutely senseles to analyse goals like this. There’s something to every goal scored, that could have prevented it going in. But fact is, it DID go in. Those fantastic goals by Lahm, Frings, Pirlo, Kaka…well, you could say it was ‘luck’ that it went it, because only 1 out of 20 such shots go in. True. Fact is, they brought themselves into the position to take the shot…and it went in.
    Same thing with people who moan about teams which win games through penalites. You first have to work the ball into the box, before you can be awarded a penalty (and then you still have to put it in).

    I say, stop analysing goals like this. Fact is, that S&M didn’t stand a chance, that Argentina dominated them and deserved the win(whether that was 1-0 or 6-0 doesn’t really matter THAT much).

  • Bidemi

    Question:

    Why are our women so good, but our men suck monkey balls?

  • Bidemi

    ooops…i thought i was in usa’s blog for a moment.

  • Ali Siddiqui

    Good God! I went off to nap and come back to find it 6-0…talk about missing the match that broke alot of hearts…and minds I think. To think that some of those were own goals just makes this even more bitter. I was really hoping that the S&M would at least go out with some dignity…ay mama!

  • Reza

    Just Iran…We will win Portugal Today…Come on Parsian stars!

  • DT

    Adrian Wagner, 6-0 matters a lot more than 1-0. With the 6-0 victory against Serbia, Argentina has sent a warning to the other teams what they’re capable of.

    For Australia, we have to be more careful when we play Brazil. Because of their rivalries with Argentina, Brazil is under a lot of pressure to win with a big margin too. They will play like mad this Sunday.

    I said this before the tournament start, but now I have the evidence to back my claim that Serbia Montenegro’s defence is way overrated. It’s true they only conceded 1 goal in their 10 qualifying matches. But those oppositions are weak teams.

  • http://WorldCupBlogGermany2006 Vaka Vevo

    i was really impressed with the third goal,scored.the skills u guys are playing and finally harmered the goal, gives a drastic measure to the (S&M) with a six win victory home safely.

  • Laura

    It’s not just the actual goal, but the impressive and amazingly well coordinated set of passes to get to it. Nobody equipped with a brain, a good pair of eyes and some common sense would deny that Argentina played good football… and you know what? I think those goals were six little works of art. I’m very, very proud of “my boys”.

  • ronaldo

    YOU OBVIOULSY WROTE YOUR THOUGHTS TO TRIGGER RESPONSES AS RIDICULUOUS COMMENTS OFTEN DO. OF THE SIX GOALS, THREE WERE MAGNIFICENT. OUT OF THOSE THREE CAMBIASSO’S WAS SPECTACULAR. THE OTHER THREE WERE JUST GOALS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, COUNT JUST AS MUCH AS THE OTHERS. TO CLAIM THAT THE GAME WAS CONTROVERSIAL IS EMBARRASING. IF WE ARE GOING TO ANALYZE EACH GOAL SLOW MOTION THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF FUTBOL WE MIGHT AS WELL FORGET ENJOYING THE GAME – HELL, MARADONA’S EPIC FIRST GOAL AGAINST ENGLAND IN 86 MAY HAVE BEEN PUSHED BY THE ENGLISH DEFENDER.
    THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO PROMOTE PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO YOUR BLOG. TRY INTELLIGENT ANALYSIS NEXT TIME. IT MIGHT JUST WORK.

  • robinmcfellow

    I think even if Argentina would win by 12-0 these ppl would find some solid reasons why those goals should not be considered as authentic.i must say my 4 yrs old brother knows better football than these ppl.

  • Mary

    Interesting, controversial and a fantastic discussion topic! Whoa!

    Great comments to a superb analysis.

  • Fernando_S

    Bob: you have debutted with a boy….

  • Borghi

    I’m argentinian and I agree with Bob, I never saw a game so easy like that… very strange.

    Saludos a la hinchada del mas grande, el AA ARGENTINOS JUNIORS
    LA PATERNAL – UNA PASION

  • apu

    You are just envious. Probably you are British and you feel very disappointed (and frustrated) for Engalnd’s display.
    Debutaste con un pibe, puto, come gatos.

  • Roland

    I predict an Argentina – Spain final; which Spain will win 3 – 2 in one for the ages.

  • Cladio

    I think you are just jealous of such an imposing demostration of the Argentinian team of pure, and beautiful soccer!!!!!
    What about the 26 touches before Cambiasso score the second goal? was that fake too?
    Please, stop thinking and enjoy this kind of soccer. And if you can, learn from it.

  • Pastor

    If Lampard, Kaka or Cristiano Ronaldo would have scored those goals you would be masturbating playing Winning Eleven in your PS2 trying to do the same goals.

  • Pastor

    ah, que debutaste con un pibe es obvio

  • cazador

    Oh, Bobby.
    Are you crazy or only stupid.

  • escorpion

    All gays

  • Silvia

    Bob only posted Piotr’s thoughts.If you really love football you’ll never said such stupid comments.

    Yes, I’m an argentinan fan…but I’ve appreciated even others teams’s goals. What you named as “controversial” is what made football what it is.

    Go and play some minigolf…

  • Mariano

    tevez is the best player of this world cup

    get up, argentina are the move

    vamos tevez, vamos argentina

  • Jesus, some people on these comments need to both chill the freak out and learn how to read. In no particular order.

  • Freud

    The “arlequin” boy debutted with you.

    Oh, and keep bringing stupid conspirancies. No matter what, the Argentinian NT will keep shutting your mouth…

  • Chelo

    Dear Bob, your first time was with Margaret Thatcher and The Teletubbies. Gorriado.

  • Piotr

    DON’T SHOOT THE MESSANGER.

    Bob is not the man behind this post, it’s me after all who questioned some of the goals. If you prefer to rip on Bob, it will just show the ignorance and lack of attention to details.

    READ CAREFULLY!!!

    “…post that was emailed to me from a reader named Piotr…:

    and then

    “…Piotr’s thoughts…”

    Now perhaps the ignorance seen in the response viciously attacking the bloggers here just a sad form a fanaticism, exactly the same one that prevents a cool head from thinking objectively.

    And as such, there are always 2 sides to the story. Argentina is a good team, but perhaps not worthy of the 6 goals it’s been accredited. Read the post, see the replays and think.

    AND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, STOP PICKING ON BOB! IF YOU WANT TO INSULT SOMEONE, DIRECT THE POSTS TO ME, NOT THE MESSENGER

  • Keyser

    Dear readers, not all argentineans are like this. Some of us prefer to debate ideas instead of simply insulting. Even more regarding a subject like football.
    No wonder argentineans are viewed like we are.

  • http://www.paco-casal.blogspot.com JB

    u r an idiot bob, try to find a forest and lost ur self

  • http://www.paco-casal.blogspot.com JB

    u r an idiot bob, try to find a forest and lose ur self

  • EL HEXA

    Ins’t the firts time, they (argentuzos) aways did this kind of &$¨%, The biggest: PERU 0-6 ARGENTINA IN 78.

  • lukas

    .. ni se ingles pero te lo digo en español…bob esponja debutaste con patrico…

  • Marco

    Bob, if you want to bash argentina at least have the courage to do it yourself not by some reader of you.

  • El mono Warhol

    Argentina was not worthy of the six goals???? What about that inexistent offside… or that penalty shot that wasnt given?
    What team played on the level argentina did yesterday? England? It took them 82 minutes to break TRINIDAD For christ’s sake! And they beat Paraguay with an own goal.

  • http://uruguayisimo.blogspot.com Cabeza

    Piotr you debutted with the arlequin fan.
    The England team have a basket pivot and a blond gay, Argentina have FUTBOL.

    PIOTR puto recalcado.

  • Patora

    Superman debutó con Patoruzú.

  • http://www.la-redo.com.ar Nicolazz

    Oh, i see… Piotr debutted with Bob!!…, and he drinks cat’s milk

  • Pastor

    loco lean vale chistar y no se peleen mas

    p.s: Maxi Lopez 2010

  • FM

    Argentina rules!!! El que no salta es un ingles! a chiunfar a chiunfar!

  • Daiana

    You make me laugh! Argentina play FUTBOL and all who say that was just “luck” are JELOUS! jajajaja . Who wants Messi, Crespo, Tevez, Saviola in your team???? I´m sorry but they are ARGENTOS 100%. Deal with that!

  • JJ

    Piotr – what kind of response do you expect when you write an article lacking any kind of intelligent analysis and that merely shows your resentment with the Argentine team. Debutaste con un pibe (that means you lost your virginity to a little boy in case you were wondering)

  • http://-- RASTAFARI

    ARGENTINA WORDL CUP CHAMPION 2006

    ARGENTINA RLZ!!

    cya

  • Chupavergas

    This is an outrage to Argentinians. A real shame you can’t enjoy a 6-0 win without someone telling you it was fixed. Dear god, I’m not saying we are going to be champions now, but it was an amazing display of football, leave it at that. So shut the trap next time if you don’t have anything worthwile to say. I know these were the kind of responses you wanted. Don’t deny it.

  • http://-- RASTAFARI AGAIN

    ARGENTINA RLZZZZZZZ

  • lanazi

    amanzing match, argentina respect!

  • Mariano

    Argentina was amazing! this post is ridiculous

  • Santi

    Porque no me tirás la goma pedazo de nabo, futbolero de play station, hacete garchar por un barrabrava con sida hijo de una gran puta, seguro tu vieja te pegaba de chico y tu papá se travestía y por eso quedaste resentido pedazo de pelotudo.

  • Pablo

    Yeah, yeah, you’re right. Also the serbians let us do the 25 touches before Cambiasso scored his goal.

    Obviously, you’ve never played football in your life.

    By the way, in the 4th goal, Crespo touched the ball with his left foot, and in the 3rd there is no foul.

    It’s a pity that you can’t enjoy when a team performs like this.

  • Stupid like a fox

    You should try stepping out on the pitch instead of over-analyzing argentina’s goals. That’s the only way you’ll see how much bullshit you are saying here.

  • piotr

    btw… some pics for you to enjoy of the above….

    (after all, a picture is worth a 1000 words that I don’t intend to write as it would be a waste of my precious time to dig deeper into this trash)

    http://piotrs.scriptmania.com/

    btw… great insults, keep them comming! It really shows your passion (that and the lack of arguments).

  • JJ

    Piotr – pics don´t reinforce your argument at all. You obviously have never played football on a consistent basis in your life. Every move the goalie made is perfectly logical. With regards to goals # 1, 5, and 6 – When you are being shot at from such a close range you have to guess pick a side of the goal in order to have any chance at all of making a save (that is why goalies when penalties are shot sometimes dive towards to wrong side)
    As for goal # 2 – the ball is already past the keeper when he pulls down his arm. Goal # 3 – might have been a foul. The defender lifts his right leg, he touches it with his left and regardless of that he does so because he is standing on the goal line and knows that any contact will send the ball in. As for goal # 5 – Crespo touches it, it has been confirmed.
    As for you – you debutted with a boy
    Anyways, stop wasting everyone´s time

  • http://www.ciudadska.com.ar Mariano Dekadente

    che loco el que no sabe de futbol y escribio eso es PIOTR, no BOB, no lo bardeen.

    “MOST CONTROVERSIAL CALLS/GOAL/GAMES OF WC 06″

    JA!

    PIOTR: go to play winning eleven with your boyfriend (?)

    http://www.ciudadska.com.ar

  • Wine store

    Argentina played very well. Don’t search “controversial” things at that game, please.
    We are not the champions yet, but we’re at the right way playing like this

  • Maxi

    Piotr: You are from the United States, aren´t you? So, why don´t you write a nice article about baseball or the Superbowl, instead of begining a debate about a topic (football)that you obviously don´t understand?

    Anyway: You debutted with a boy!

  • Jack

    Just one word for this: Jealousy.

  • Florchis

    Piotr!

    1) Saviola is 5.4″ and Gavrancic 6.5″… also Saviola tacckled the ball , not the player, (a totally legal play, by the way).

    2) For your information Tevez is used to score that kind of goals, passing a couple of players from left to right and into the box before shootting (exactly like the 5th goal)

    3) It’s obvious that you are not used to watch real Football very often…
    Anyway you can start by watching Argentina’s matches. Why don’t you tape next wednesday Argentina-Netherlands, so you can analyze the three goals Argentina will score?
    Cheers!

    PS: Piotr, and if you find nothing to be analyzed, PLEASE! ANALYZE THIS! (¡analizame esta!)

  • MartinL

    Boy + Piotr = debut

  • IAS

    Piotr . I Know, You Know , And the World Know Argentina Played Good Football on that day . this Argentina Match might Look contoversial to you . But to most of the fans it doesnt. to me, I dint found anything As you mentioned on the article Above.

  • Cio

    Oddly, he knew exactly where the ball was going, but stayed glued to the ground with no intention of reaching the ball!
    —-

    U r watching in slow motion… The back heel pass was totally unexpected, imagine in real time…

    Anyway… This post is just a waste of bytes… and I have a word 4 it…

    jealousy !!!!

  • mightie

    hey “BOB”

    as you predicted for CIV & S&M to top the group http://www.worldcupblog.org/group-c/big-question-whos-going-to-win-group-c.html but these six just destroyed your topper of the group.

    “piotr” i wonder wats wrong with ur eyes look at the 4th goal its not the defensive slide that takes the ball in but a poke by crespo which is so hard that it hits the top net and comes out of the goal as well, take look at it again
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiiA6RCPCsw&search=crespo%20goal%20serbia

    we havent won anything yet and so much jealousy!
    “LET THEM HATE AS LONG THEY FEAR”

    go argentina!

  • mightie

    another nonsense post (”Six Goals and Still Not Impressed”) by some ignorants.

    u pple will never be impressed as long as its argentina.

  • maria

    to whoever the hell believes piotr the moron

    no 1 in real time as someone said, it is much more difficult for a goalie to decide where to go. saviola was coming towards him and could have shot- he passed it to maxi

    no 2 again in real time, the goalie makes mistakes. your mistake equals someone elses gain yes? if there were no mistakes, and all the plays were perfect, then no one would ever score. he probably thought crespo was going to shoot. he didnt react fast enough to guess that it would be cambiasso. that’s art- the whole point of futbol is to outwit your opponent and beat them to the punch. you dont just do that with physical force- it requires intelligence which you clearly lack.

    no 3 saviola went for the ball, no foul there. im sure youve seen people have the ball taken from them, they fall and it’s not considered a foul- no different here. saviola had no intent of injuring or stopping the player- he wanted the ball

    no 4 it is difficult to tell whether that was crespo or stankovic- but at that speed it didnt matter- the ball was going to be hit by one of the 2 and both went for it. and at the speed they were both going, it was definitely going in.

    no 5 was fucking amazing and if you dont think so, you’re an idiot who does not deserve to watch futbol at all

    no. 6 was too quick for the goalie i suppose.

    ps did i mention you’re an idiot?

  • dcoy

    piotr, your predictions for group C and your analisys (you like that word don’t you) of the 6-0 clearly show that faggots can’t talk about sports. Gay and pretending to know anything about football… hope aids finishes you and bob off soon.

  • Native Son

    Piotr, I have a few words for you but just before I do so, I’ll give 2/6 of the goals the beniefit of the doubt. THat leaves 4/6 clean goals.

    Crespo scores, is noside but is ruled offside and worse still, is yellow carded. THta makes it 5/6 clean goals.

    Crespo is brought down in the box, a clear opportunity for a penalty, but since Arg., the team that I support (and I am Kenyan) is I believe 4-0, finds no reason to drive a dagger in their chest thus denying Arg. the penalty. Could it have gone in had it been awarded? The probability is 0.5

    If the answer is no, Arg. could have ended with 5 goals.

    If yes, they’d have been 6 goals.

    But that is not what I wanted to tell you.

    What I meant to say is;

    1. The truth is the truth whether one chooses to believe it or not. Yours is more of consipracy theory.

    2. The Chinese (I believe it is) have a saying that goes something like this; THE SKY IS NO LESSER BLUE JUST BECAUSE THE BLIND MAN CAN’T SEE! Piotr, I didn’t call you blind.

    3. The dogs bark but the Caravan (Argentina) moves on.

    Piotr, I didn’t call you a dog and would never do so.

    Piotr, GIVE IT UP!!!!!!!

    You seem to have a bruised ego.

    Yours is a case of sour grapes.

    This world has so many skeptics and cynics.

    Just give it up my friend.

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  • Piotr

    Ah, finally some more attention to details…

    now, just a friendly reminder, look on the top of the article, it says:

    I am not saying that this was fixed, perhaps poorly played, but definitely controversial – why? It wasn’t all that great!

    No one said that there was a foul play, just

    infatuated lies to elevate the status of something ordinary — 2 of the goals need to be credited to S&M as self goals.

    And for those who can’t figure that one out just yet, too bad that you’re too blind to see that (yes I saw the replays 1000 times fram by frame).

    Keep dreaming.

  • T

    I’m from Serbia and that game broke my heart

  • T

    Oh, and I wish Mexico beat Argentina today haha ;D That was an awesome game.

  • bobbie

    your comments are quite appaling…argentina is a great team that will challenge the best…maxi rodriguez proved that with an absolute stunner…what is really pathetic is to watch the espn commentators in the us…they comment on players clothes and apperances…simply because they do not understand the game…

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