Frings’ Recollection Doesn’t Pack Much Punch

“mhmm,your scandal is only a question of management, nice idea, i will try it.

two manager meet in a bistro:Say’s the first, “we will loose the next game for money.
Say the other, “ok. here are 50000 euro.”
During the game the both manager meet in the stadion again. Say the first who wanted to loose ” Sorry, my team say no to loosing the game, here i gave you your money back” the other answer “f***, next time i buy your players”

I hope you understood, nobody can change a game without the help of the players, the ref”

infact the scandal involves some managements and some refs of course. Nothing to do with players.
BTW didn’t Germany face the same scandals a few ago?
It’s quite funny, scandals in Germany and in Italy, Italians are the same old cheats, Germans are the same old honest people.
And….I recall a Dane video about Totti spitting a Dane player, and the Dane federation pushing for Totti to get banished. Disgusting little bastard Totti! Well done the danes!…..and….hey…i remember Sweden and Denmark needed a 2-2 tie to get through and send Italy home….by fortune it was a tie..and it was 2-2. Well done! those little cheats italian deserved to be sent home. Enough?
I give up, someone just can’t use their brains as i can see.

Posted from  Italy

I think that by doing this, they are showing that there is no conspiracy by germany because that is what a lot of people are thinking right now–germany has dealed that they WILL win the cup and no one must get in their way. SO by suspending one of their players, people’s attention will be drwn away from the theory that germany is involved in a conspiracy.

ok, the differece between tooti and frings.

tooti begin, frings react only, if he had, cruz say no, frings say no, the only thing what say yes is a video. and everybody know how easy it is today to change a video

by tooti the victims began the process, by frings the nation of the next opponent begin the process

and i never told that we didn’t use our brains, we do and because of this we have not this dicussion

Posted from  Germany

and I thought portugal were a bunch of sore winners. Italy are GOING to be sore LOSERS tomorrow.

EVERYONE CROSS YOUR FINGERS FOR GERMANY!!!!!!!

With Frings or without him, what Germany and Italy played in this World Cup can hardly be called football. It’s a shame that Germany, after spending so many millions of Euros in magnificent installations, gets such a lousy performance from their national team. Who’s going to win? Who cares!!! From all teams, only Argentina and lately LA FRANCE, seemed to have love and passion for this game.

Posted from  Argentina

agree with you totally Lisa dFC. FIFA is judging intent, not weather Frings connected or not. And yes, I’m sad to admit, intent was there. The trouble is not with FIFA. Players need to know based on officiating in these past matches… you walk away. Rooney found out, didn’t he. The Italians on the other hand will take any advantage they can and are probably congratulating themselves right now. Too bad, Frings played well, the Germans will miss him.

Posted from  United States

@Angie M,

you seem to part of the problem with comments like that.

@Aqvamare first of all it’s Totti, if you’re going to bad mouth a player behind his back than at least get his name right. Second, both Totti and Frings were reacting to something someone else said or did. Both the agressor and the one retaliating should both be banned.

@endroo G – German fans have some ego, I don’t think any team is afraid of Germany to be frank so stop diluting yourselves with fantasies. Your advancement into the semi-finals was based solely on the abilities of your POLISH goal scorer. Germany wasn’t even suppose to get the World Cup, talk about scandals. What about your advancement into the semis in 2002, a clear handball against the US but magically the ref didn’t see it. Well before you talk about the shortcomings of other teams you better examine your own shady past. Believe me we can do this all night but what’s that going to accomplish. German fans are going to have to deal with a lot of abuse if they lose tomorrow especially because they are expected to win on home soil. So you might want to tone it down a bit just in case. Your record against Italy is nothing to boast about. If anything I’m sure that this is weighing heavily on the player’s minds at the moment and most of all the humiliating defeat Germany suffered to Italy in a recent friendly. Sure, everybody says it’s just a friendly but remember Germany was under the microscope at that point and wanted to prove themselves so you can’t say they weren’t trying. I really don’t care who wins tomorrow but from what I see Germany will be looking to settle the game with penalty kicks again. Germany has always had the greater strength in this area. I don’t think Klose will be any kind of a factor tomorrow.

Well good luck to both teams tomorrow I hope it’s a classic encounter. Italy and Germany better start getting along being neighbours and all.

Posted from  Canada

“Next time, players, put your hands in your pockets, with your little macho attitude! There was a referee in between, let him do his job, instead of caressing each other like dreamy lovers…”
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Its a difference between the referee doing his job and outsiders doing it for the referee who werent even involved in that case. The referee did his job and showed the nuttkicker the red card. He didnt give out cards for the other brawlers and he did not give it to Frings or Cruz for touching each others like ladies. Thanks for proving my point

Italy, Hmmm, well, first they cheat in their own country. Then they dive to win a penelty against Australia. Now they move to have one Germany’s best players removed before the game (though to be fair FIFA also has some explaining after their decision).

Am I the only one that sees a trend here?

To all the honest Italy supporters out there I am sorry that your National team and some of your club teams are doing this to the sport.

But I hope so bad that they get their arses whipped, as they do not deserve to be there.

Posted from  Germany

To Frank from Argentina:

I am not picking on you at all. I guess that Germany and Italy have been playing in a boring style (not pleasing to the eyes). But maybe they are not trying to be fancy.

A similar thing happens in the NBA (I don’t know if you watch it). Detroit and San Antonio played in a boring style few years ago, but they were successful.

Posted from  Canada

My Yanks were dogs this World Cup. The other teams I support are England and Sweden (though generally I like the Nordic sides.)

I certainly have no special affection for Germany, considering our past WC experience against them. But, I’ve found them to be not only a good side this year, but an entertaining one at that.

I mention all of this to give myself a little credence as an unbiased observer in this matter. My problem is that FIFA has either 1) lost control of maintaining order; or 2) is systematically penalizing some offenses while allowing others to occur without sanction.

If Frings, and Figo, and Cruz (and others) all received suspensions for unsportsmanlike behavior, based on video evidence, then I wouldn’t have even bothered posting here.

However, because Frings was singled out and suspended (however just that might be objectively speaking), it was an unfair decison based on the subjective way the same offenses have been dealt with.

Posted from  United States

Gian Luca posted:

“Thought Number 1:
Julio Cruz was not sanctioned because the FIFA officials felt punishing him would have been absurd: He’s going to fly into Buenos Aires into a mob of pissed off Argentian fans who are going to make him regret being born, let alone a little caress from a cute long-haired German.”

BTW, The “mob” of 5000 people gave a warm welcome to the ARG returning team and if you read the newspapers everyone recognizes that they have played good football (not like the 2002 team), moreover although Pekerman did a mistake with the subs, 70% want him to continue as coach. The general opinion is that most players will be at their prime for 2010.

Regarding Frings suspension, I think no one in Buenos Aires cares too much about what happens in this Eurocup 2006 semifinal, not being any Asian, African or Southamerican team it has lost quite a lot of interest.

Posted from  Argentina

It is probably too late for Frings, but not too late for the rest of the German team to put the desperate Italian team in its place. Their “win” over Australia is not forgotten, there will be justice. They have just climed higher to fall harder.

Posted from  Barbados

prophet so damn true we will never forget our “win” over the mighty Australia, it was just a nice italian job. With diving and bribing, our national specialities, we are just proud, it was a classy job.
Cheers mate.

Posted from  Italy

No precedence exists for the FIFA decision, a “Solomon judgement” which attempts to halfway appease most parties. Reviewing official post-game film can be used for appropriate action. In the video, Frings appeared to be defending himself after Cruz hit Frings’ face. Cruz should have cut Torsten’s hair instead.

Posted from  United States

To sergio:

You say the Germans started it, taunting ARG team after it was all over:

The whole world knows this is an impertinant lie.

1. Argie players had been trying to divert German scorers’ concentration while penalties were still on. One German player gestured to them to hush up. That seemed to have infuriated the gauchos, well divining the end of their presentation was just around the corner. And when it was all over, the world’s sorest losers started the whole brawl. Just look at the videos.

2. “Sore winners” ? That’s a good one: so revealing. Your logic is superb indeed.

3.”You don’t mess with Argentina.” Ooops – I feel ashamed because I am so terribly unimpressed. Your lingo is cowboy talk, or gaucho talk, for that matter. But let me depart from your wording: I should say: “As a decent civilized occidental individual, you better not
m i n g l e with Argentinians – at least not with the likes of you.”

In earlier blogs I was incensed by English bloggers’sweeping statements about
football-Argies’ mentality – or should I say: mental state – but meanwhile I have to apologize to them. They just knew your kind better and earlier than I did. Well, Let’s take things lightly: shows you once again that there is always something new to learn.

You thought you were the kings of the football world, and the cup was just yours for the taking.

MEXICO should have warned you.

GERMANY taught you.

You don’t mess with Germans – not that way. Not your calibre. Period.

P.S.

One final kick in your ass:

Your ever-superior South American rivals, glorious BRAZIL, 5 ***** , who were defeated by France, have always shown grace. They never needed your dirty tricks. You will always remain their ugly inferior little brothers. And their Pele is the greatest. A gentleman. And your Madonna – oops – Maradonna – a pitiable creature. A clown.

Posted from  Germany

To Vancouver:
It’s not a matter of “playing fancy”, its a matter of showing you have guts! the ability and the art to be called CHAMPION. Not only being there because of fate, luck o whatever you want to call it. It’s what Zidane showed against Brazil, one of the greatest. Of course, you can be there, but do yo deserve it? Football its a little more than results in the scoring board. Its passion. And Germany lacks it completely!!! Probably most people will forget this in the next four years, but you can we sure we will remember. See you in South Africa.

Posted from  Argentina

whatever rolf.. go suck an egg..

i don’t believe argentine players went to attack german players without provocation.. why would they? think about it..

its been widely reported that bierhoff and other german coaching staff started taunting the argentine players and making faces at them after germany won

if you think thats sportsmanship..

well i guess you are german..never known for class or elegance, eh?

go on playing your crap soccer… no one will care if you win..

Posted from  United States

I would not be surprised if this plays to the favor of Germany. They will be pissed off about it, they have solid reserves that will fill in well and Frings will be fresh for the Final.

Posted from  United States

Frank, I understood. Good point.

Posted from  Canada

I heard a piece of good news that Frings will be on the game tonight,No matter what I hope Germany will go further than 1/2 Semi Final.Ballack,Lehmann,Klose and Lahm,I like these guys.By the way,In this video we can see clearly Frings was hit first and then he just wanna hit back.I don’t think the man who hit him first would escape from punishment.

Posted from  China

this 1 match ban was absolutely unnecessary and makes me puke

it ruined the world cup athmosphere…

Posted from  Estonia

[...] Yesterday, we showed you how the German and Italian media have been slugging it out over their respective roles in Torsten Frings being suspended for today’s semifinal match. The rivalry between the two countries doesn’t stop there, however. A Berlin newspaper is doing its best to upset Italians living in the German capital. [...]

Posted from  United States

again i say, i thought football was for fun, enough of the drama, play nicely, joga bonito
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGBSSgr4XA

Posted from  Israel

thats crap… he didnt even hit him

Posted from  United States