Australia 2010. Maybe

Hi Guys,

I’m a balck South African who is very much patritic and believe in the current countries leadership. Yes, crime is a serious issue in South Africa and the government need to action on that ASAP. Yes, the government is now implementing strategies to curb the crime, but more needs to be done. The former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani is invited by the Gauteng governemnt to help them in crime and corruption irradication, he reduced crime and murder for an average of 65% while he was NY mayor. Business against crime have just donated some money into crime elliviation, etc. Yes, come 2010 South Africa will be a safe haven. Tourists Police are being trained. All I can say is that a lot is happening.

When you talk about infrastructure then I will just have to ignore you as that will now be based on the fact that you don’t trust that an African country can host the tournament of this magnitude and I must just say to you “wait and see”. Just 3 days ago and extra R3 Billion was invested into the Rail improvement and into making sure that all our roads are up to standard. South Africas roads are tarred and more are tarred on a daily basis.

There are lots of projects going on currently in our country. Our Governemnt is spending billions to make sure that from and to 2010 and after the country will be one of the best in the world. January this year the city of Durban hosted tha A1 Grand Prix and it was voted the best and most succesful organized A1 GP, but all these critics are ignoring that fact.

Kaizer Chiefs on of the best and most succesfully South African team it in preperatin to start the development of its own 60 000 seater stadium and that is outside the World Cup, but it will be completed by end of 2008. Some of the traind have been replaced with the new Metro rails. Putco and other bus companies are running on our roads but none of these critics are realizing that fact.

Did all these crtics ask themselves as to why did FIFA award the event to South Africa?
Why all the FIFA sponsers deposited the money into FIFA’s account even before the 2006 SWC ends?
Why FIFA dismissed all the rumours that the World Cup will be taken away from South Africa? Why all the American and Germany companies are establishing theselves in South Africa?

I just want alll you critics to lay down all your reason as to why South Africa won’t host the best Wordl Cup.

Check the following links out and then comment

- http://www.fifa.com/en/worldcup/index/0,3360,118845,00.html?comp=WF&year=2010&articleid=118845

- http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=2871&art_id=qw1152712805619S163

- http://www.swc2010.com/news.php

It amazes me how niave people are about South Africa. I have lived in SA for forty years and and have had seven friends brutally murdered. My one friend had his wife and daughter raped in front of him before he was murdered (shot in the ear)
SA is the murder and rape capital of the world.
This is why I emigrated a year ago.
Just have a look at these web sites http://www.crimexposouthafrica.org and http://www.africancrisis.org on this website look for the pictures of the murdered and tortured farmers who feed millions of black people in the richest country in Africa.
If you want to visit SA in 2010 hey go ahead its your life.

Posted from  United Kingdom

cp,
It is an exciting thought that australia may be the back-up plan for the 2010 world cup. Although I think south africa would greatly rise to the occasion but you feel there will always be that risk factor with what could go wrong. As for stadiums in australia, you need not worry as brisbane, melbourne, sydney, perth can hold a football match and don’t forget new zealand as joint hosts just like korea & japan 2002. As for wheather australia is worthy to host a world cup, that is up for question, you have to remember australia is a long way from the having a real passion towards football or any football culture. Having held sydney olympics just 6 years ago and don’t forget football matches where played not just in sydney but brisbane and melbourne aswell. But would all 64 games be sellouts or would the crowd attendences be a bit poor as australia is a long way for europeans, south amercans & africans to travel to. Anyway it will be interesting to see what happens…

Posted from  Australia

John I sympathise with you as my husband’s brother was murdered in 1996 at the age of 24 and this really brought home the reality of crime. South africans live such a compartmentalised life. We left the country in 1997, but I have to say we really miss Africa. There is always a more romanticised version when one is away from it, but I think Africans have a sense of life that many do not. If South Africa can get better I am all for it so I hope 2010 does us all a huge favour and prove the many of us who have been touched by so much negativity, wrong.

Posted from  United States

Hi, Crime is more a perception than a reality for the tourist. Very few tourists are victims of crime in SA. When you avoid the dangerous places you’ll very unlikely to encounter any problems. I don’t know of any family member who has been assualted or murdered… It always depends on the area. South Africa is amazing Visit http://www.southafrica.info/2010 for the latest news.

http://www.crimexposouthafrica.org

Posted from  New Zealand

It is said to hear of MR VAN NIEKERK s case the whole world is sympathysing with you but such report occur anywhere in the world. Remember you are still nre to wherever you are give it time and come and report that to us again even if it didnt happen to you. We really need those stats. But what ever one s wish is come 2010 I will be watching Bafana Bafana or Bawawawawa!!!!! as some call it at the johannesburg soccer city stadium. Proudly SOUTH AFRICAN.

Fools. Crime is EVERYWHERE in South Africa. You dont need to go looking for it, it WILL find you.

Would you go to Iraq now? No, yet more people are killed each day in South Africa than in Iraq.

Would you go to South Africa?

Perhaps its best if you do go. You’ll quickly be removed from the world gene pool.

Posted from  New Zealand

World cup progress for 2010:

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,6119,2-7-1442_2010876,00.html

Posted from  New Zealand

Anyone remember Arnold Schwarzenegger saying “If you give these blacks a country to run, they’ll run it down the tube?” Seems like he was a visionary. Cant wait to see the headline after the fans get rape and make international news. Haha.

Posted from  United States

Hi

Until 5 years ago I’ve been a very positive, sceptics-hating, future embracing, South African. I still try to be. I still want to be.

Unfortunately you cannot avoid crime in South Africa by “avoiding the dangerous places”. You can visit news.24.com to get a feel for where the most horrific crimes occur. That very often includes airports, suburbs, tourist sites, and upmarket shopping centres. In 2010, it will include stadiums. Another myth is the poverty myth. While you are LESS likely to be pickpocketed at a tourist site in South Africa than in, say, Italy, you are much more likely to get raped, tortured to death, hijacked, violently robbed or asaulted than on any other country on earth. Which do you think is the type a hungry person would do, pick pocketing, or raping?

In the face of this horrible threat to our very existence, the government is doing next to nothing about crime. Most of their statements about crime are either criticising people who complain about it, or defending and saying crime in this country is not out of the ordinary. Seldom are there bold statements declaring war against crime.

To you Kendal. Malcolm is probably not an Afrikaner. I am. You can insult him if you like, whatever he is. The way you reacted in insulting Afrikaners is equally racist. Most Afrikaners bleed with passion and love for this country and it’s people. What most of us want to see is NOT for the world cup to move to Australia, but for international bodies to at least cite that as a possibility, to get our government to do something about crime. The world cup is all about government prestige and our government is very, very image conscious. They will not even comtemplate the humiliation if the world cup goes to Australia. If that threat is real, THEY WILL do something. Believe me, they will.

Crime in South AFrica was unacceptably high when the tournament was awarded. What concerns me, is that it has increased signifficantly since then. More concerning, morturies and insurance companies are at odds with the government over crime stats. There is some evidence of a huge cover up, the 18 000 murders per year is the official stats.

For the other sceptics, amnemity wise, South Africa is still very much first world. (Allthough looking at service delivary, I sometimes feel it is about to change.) My point is, if the security issues are addressed, there is no reason why this could not be the most memorable tournament ever.

It will be a shambles!
People bang on about the rugby and cricket world cups in SA, but forget that they were organised by and large by whites.
It makes me laugh too when i see all these idiots on here who go on about how great SA is but do they live there? Do they f**k! They’re all posting from the UK!

Posted from  United Kingdom

Soccer World Cup 2010 in Africa will be legendary in the same vein as the Rumble in the Jungle.

http://www.crimexposouthafrica.org

It says it all.

Posted from  New Zealand

Pippy. You are the one who is in England not me. So listen to me dude. You know nothing about South Africa. The organizers of the world cup in South Africa are quite capable of organising a good world cup. Remember they went through all the processes that any country would have done in order to qualify to host the tournament. We conviced a panel of people well equiped with knowledge of world cups and experience than you can ever aquire with your brain in your lifetime. Note we did not select our selves but high profiled knowlegeable people chose us. I just dont know if maybe in England Black people are incapable of organising an event, I personally know that my abilities and of course many black south africans is not limited to what you believe in, but if you say so because it is the religion in which you grew up in then be it. But you should have also queted your source. But I kindly sugest you humanly go through your statements and use every bit of your brain to think about this believes of yours. Your argument is childish and incompetant even 10 years back when I was 11 i would have come up with a better argument. Note i am not against any critisizim segregative thoughts of this lad who would give credit to people based of their skin colour.

Thank you for your comments “rode”.
Just a couple of points..
1, How do you know whether or not i know anything about South Africa?
2, You’re assuming i’m not black myself!
3, “You are the one who is in England not me” seems a strange thing to say because you obviously are pal! The computer don’t lie!

Posted from  United Kingdom

The arguments around 2010 are for the large part puerile. To say that blacks can’t organise an event of this magnitude is racist and whoever make a comment such as that, shows themselves to be the bigot they are. When the World Cup was held in Japan and South Korea did you also think that the Orientals would be incapable of making seats big enough for the European and African backsides? To the man from Australia who thinks that it can be a joint World Cup with New Zealand, unfortunately FIFA has decided there will no longer be joint World Cups. I am uncertain of their reasoning but it is why Libya and Tunisia did not make the grade. To the others who think that the website crimeexposure is a valuable source of information know this. Neil Watson the creator of the website has by his own admission never been a victim of violent crime. Him and his website are currently under investigation for pretending to be a non-profit organisation, which they were not and soliciting donations. The website is currently shutdown with no word why.
Crime in South Africa is bad, to deny this would be idiotic. But to say that every tourist will be mugged, raped or killed is ignorance. Having lived in South Africa and travelled abroad, I can honestly say I have felt more at risk in places such as Cornwall, England and New Orleans, USA. In South Africa, it would be a fair comment to say there are two countries. One which is still predominately white where the tourists generally stay and has private security, first world amenities and is as safe as anywhere in the world really. The other is the one which you all talk about. This is where the majority of citizens live. There is crime, little policing but at least the drinking water is clean. Only time tourists go there is on organised township tours to experience the “real South Africa”. These worlds sometimes collide but for your average visitor, they will never be affected by the problems which South Africa has.

Say Stuart, what have you been rooking man? Wake up and smell the coffee. Get real. Get the deal. And as for lil old Kendal who is so proud of being an African, that’s good man. But what have you guys ever contributed to the development of the modern world? I mean what have you guys ever invented, developed, discovered, built, etc of any substance? If the whites go back to Europe, South Africa will collapse. They already are and it already is.
Happy Days.

Oh well, looks like Aussie Football Fed is backing SA as 2010 hosts.

“Oh well, looks like Aussie Football Fed is backing SA as 2010 hosts”….

They’d be silly not to if they want to secure the African vote for their expected bid for the 2014 WC!

Deep down Stuart you know what Anton says is right, you’re obviously not man enough to admit it!

Posted from  United Kingdom

Oi Pippy, 2014 is going to Sth America i.e. Brazil as no one else is bidding

Australia should get the World Cup because everyone know it would be the best ever unfortunately money talks and bullshit walks so … US or England will get 2018 .. F$#k!

Posted from  Australia

i think 2010 fifa should be in australia!

Posted from  Australia

I think Australia would make a great job, I’ve been to 2 world cup finals the one in france 1998 and the one in germany 2006 (that final was very sad we lost) and I think Australia would be able to do aswell as the europeans. The only problem is that Australians don’t love enough football, they too much into their bloody cricket and rugby.

To all those who think that south africa cannot host a successful world cup, wait and you will see how much you’ve been wrong about africa. what irritates me the most is the fact that most of you have never been to south africa. the problem with you europeans and australians is that you don’t want us to ever catch up with you ito development. you forget one thing though that the time for africa has come.
why is everyone crying now that its black people who are organising the 2010 world cup? didn’t we host 1995 and 2003 world cups succesfully. no one cried about crime then. for Gods sake crime is everywhere. who the hell are you to even compare sa with iraq ito murders. i’m not trying to be defensive about it , but if you don’t have anything good to say about sa stay where you are. osme of you comment that the infrastructure is deteoriating because of the black government. you forget one thing foes, when this government took over the apartheid regime you left with your skills and sa money. the poor who have been oppressed for so long had to get a share in the slice cake.

there is so much happening in sa in terms of infrastructure development, making our cities compete with the best in the world. maybe some of you who left the country after 1994 are afraid that your lies about this wonderful country will come out. we will surely prove to the rest of the world that we are much better than you think of us.

yes we have a problem of crime and poverty which are as a ersult of colonialism, apartheid and the current ecomomic trends which are favouring the rich people.

i plead with all sa to pull together, and let all these monkies who are negetive towards my/our country eat a humble pie. So let football be a unifier as Rugby in 1995 and 2007 has done.