Serbia Set to Make its Debut (Kind of)

Dear soccer peasants……I love and do not hate. I stand by what I said and after four goals any self respecting soccer club would shut it down.

The big clubs would….I thought Argentina was one of them…obviously not.

So if I am happy that you barely got 1 goal against a strong team like Germany and God forbid you met Italy thats your reward. So keep talking about how well you played against SM….then what?

Bullies and Punks the big countries say …bring it on bitch.

Posted from  Canada

PS…….go Serbia and may Argentina continue to get what they deserve……early exits in Major Tournaments.

Posted from  Canada

John, you can stand by your words all you want. But in this case, that doesn’t make you any wiser, it just makes you stubborn.
I don’t know where did you get the notion that a team that is ahead by 4 goals has to show compassion and stop attacking.
That concept doesn’t exist in any book or any rules of moral conduct in professional or amateur football around the world.
It has never been even taken into consideration by any coach, even when talking about olympic games.
Argentina was pounded with a 5-0 by Colombia a few years ago. Some of us still remember how it hurt. But nobody, not even in Buenos Aires ever thought that Colombia was supposed to slow down after 3 or 4 goals.
You’re just making a fool of yourself by showing total ignorance not only about football but about sports in general.

Posted from  United States

Since when does good sportsmanship have to be in a rule book? It’s not compassion it’s called sportmanship.

Basketball,hockey american football all good classy teams shut it down after a big lead. If you don’t know this well you just learned something new from me today….your welcome.

Your example of columbia v arg leads me to believe this concept of class and sportmanship is foriegn in South American football….wonder If i should come down there to lecture? hmmm..you might have started a new business venture for me.

And Albo I am wise and you should just be getting me coffee and not interupting me.

Sorry Serbia Fans about getting off topic but I have to striaghten these guy’s out.

GO SERBIA

Posted from  Canada

Well John, sorry for not being able to bring you your coffee like you propose, and sorry if you feel like I’m here to interrupt you.
But in a public forum like this, you don’t need to get personal with me.
Let’s leave that for people that who can’t wait to get into a fight.
Now, going back to basics for a second here, during the first round of a world cup finals we have groups of 4 teams where the number of scored goals is very important to advance to the next round.
I could understand that with a few minutes to end the game, a team that’s ahead by several goals should shut down.
But that’s not the case you mentioned.
It sounds to me like you hate the argentine team, and that, I can’t do anything about because unfortunatelly, us argentinians leave a lot to be desired in many fields.
I’m ashamed about what we did at the end of the Germany-Argentina game.
But I still believe that the game against Serbia Montenegro was an example of some of the best football played during the WC.
If you are going to answer to my post, please, don’t get nasty or personal with me. Thanks

Posted from  United States

Albo,
you said at the end of your last post
“If you are going to answer to my post, please, don’t get nasty or personal with me. Thanks”

However at the end of your previous post you said
” You’re just making a fool of yourself by showing total ignorance not only about football but about sports in general.”

lets leave it in the past and say we agree to disagree.

I do not hate the Argentine team, and though they are not my first choice team to support they are in my top three.

I believe scoring six goals when the opposition has failed to score even one is running up the score…thats what I think.
As for the end of the Germany game I dont know who started what, but no-one likes to see that type of behaviour.

Posted from  Canada

It IS running up the score. But who cares? If a team stopped playing well and stopped scoring when they clearly can keep scoring TAHT would be wrong. Argentina decided that although they were already winning, they were gonna CONTINUE giving the game all they have and not relaxing because that would show a lazy team.

In fact, Serbia could learn something from this as they OBVIOUSLY gave up. The object of any game is to win by as much as you can possibly win by! Not to beat a team by a bit. Im sure Serbia would not have liked to be beaten 4-0 and then have the Argentina team tell them that: “At the end we kinda took it easy on you guys to be nice.” If you were on the Serbia team would you like a team to effortlessly beat you and then tell you that they couldve beaten you by more if they wanted to?

Adam….you went to school on the small bus ..didn’t you? Just an educated guess based on reading your posts.

If you dont get it …you dont get it ….I cant do anything for you. If you dont understand the concept of sportsmanship ….pick up a book.

Your from Canada….in hockey they shut it down after a certain lead…don’t they?

alright adamo thats it.
peace

Posted from  Canada

John, you’re pretty full of yourself, calling “educated guess” to those words.
I believe your education could use a little humbling for starters. Calm down, sir.
I’ve been following american sports for the last 39 years. And the only moment when a team stops fighting is when there’s about a minute to finish and the lead is to big.
On the contrary, coaches get mad at players for losing the competitive edge while leading by a mile.
To stop giving it all is to look down on the opponent and it’s got nothing to do with sportsmanship.
And that’s the way it is in every sport all over the world.
Second, Pekerman brought 6 fowards to Germany (one better than the next), and it was
the second game, he tested his players and they all responded.
Argentina did what was supposed to do.
I, like you, want to see good sportsmanship first.
But this case is got nothing to do with it.

Posted from  United States

Albo…I am always calm …believe me.

You make your point and backed it thoughtfully, however I disagree with you for the same reasons I posted previously….and thats fine, we agree to disagree.

Keep up the passion for football and come to Canada next year for the U20 World Cup.

Posted from  Canada

John, I’m glad that instead of having a healthy debate you can throw insults at people. And it’d be better if they were actually clever insults instead of overused ones. That being said I wont stoop to your level.

As for hockey… no they dont. Teams dont STOP scoring. Its that simple. Teams score as much as they can score. If there’s a team that’s not playing well, the winning team should take advantage of that. Maybe they can pick up a few goals and get a head start on the Golden Shoe award.

Teams shouldn’t shut down after a certain lead. You never know what could happen. I think it was game 2 of the last world cup finals that Edmonton was winning 3-0 I believe… They ended up losing that game because they did “shut it down.” In a series of 7 that they lost 4-3… just PERHAPS that was the mistake that lost them the Stanley Cup, eh?

Teams should not go into games thinking that if they DO play badly the other team will feel sorry for them. Bringing hockey in again; at the last game the Toronto Maple Leafs played at maple Leaf Gardens I think they lost 6-1! With your theory and some other people’s as well Chicago shouldve taken it easy because of this sentimental “sportsmanship” thing. But in a huge tournament like the WORLD CUP you play to win and to prove that you are the BEST beyond any doubt!

You also need to play telling your fans that you will never give up whether you are losing or winning. This is what Argentina did.

I’m happy that you enjoyed the game so much.

Glad your not going to stoop to my level …i’m sure you would have come up with something quite clever.

Posted from  Canada

Is that REALLY all you have to say john? Cuz if it is that’s pretty pathetic. Come up with something clever. How about when I used the hockey analogy you tried to throw against me TWICE against you?! Where is your response to that?

Is it or is it not true that if Edmonton would’ve kept the burners on in game 2, they couldve easily won the game and thus the stanley cup?! Where’s your answer to that?

And if its such a sportsmanslike thing to let teams off easy, why did Chicago cream the Leafs in a game that had such sentimental value? Are they also bad people and mad sportsman?

WHERE ARE YOUR ANSWERES JOHN?!

Ok I’ll respond since you insist, I’m nothing if not a gentleman.

I dont consider 3 -0 in hockey to be a huge lead so you would continue playing but 6 -0 in hockey is huge.

Lets start with hockey. Teams do stop scoring or you get brawls in Hockey…it’s that simple. Watch a couple of coaches corner’s …or look up what happens in hockey when a teams runs up the score it gets ugly. Fights are a common occurence. Do you remember why Patrick Roy left Montreal? What happened in the infamous game?

Now lets talk about what you consider the beautiful game against SM.

Nothing but the facts

Rodrigues scored in the 6′
Cambiasso in the 31′
Maxi in the 41′

Then an expulsion of KEZMAN in the 65′…..Argentina wanted to secure the win fine so

while SM is playing down one man the powerful Argentines score again

Crespo scores in the 78′ - 4 - 0 Argentina with 12 minutes left to play

However Argentina still threatened and out to show their class while up a man and four goals continue to attack

Tevez 84′
Messi 88′ Congratulations Argentina you managed to humble SM

However as we know things will change shortly when facing higher quality opponents….Mexico no six goals there and a game that could have gone either way.

Then facing the three time champs Germany ….no six goals there….we know the result of that game.

So let me repeat I’m happy that you enjoyed the game so much. Congratulations.

Posted from  Canada

Hm..notice that the last two goals were scored by substitutes who obviously wanted to prove themselves to the manager that they are worth a starting place upfront. I prefer to think it has nothing to do with being unsportsmanlike. And yes, no one wins the World Cup based on one game, though this will certainly be a game talked about for a long time to come.

Posted from  Singapore

A couple days ago, basketball team USA beat China 119-74.
That’s by 45 points.
How much is too much, John???
You must be the only person in the world that thinks a lead like that is disrespectful to the opponent or unsportsmanlike.

Posted from  United States

How much is too much, John???

In Basketball - by 25 Points Hockey - By 5 Goals
Soccer - by 4 Goals

Give or take.

I am not alone in believing what I do …my brother and second cousin agree with me.

And frankly Albo I am a little dissapointed in you. Let me ask you the same question you posed to me.

How much is too much, Albo?

Posted from  Canada

You are a little dissapointed in me, John?
Well, I won’t be able to sleep tonight…
Do you have an idea of how many teams in the history of the NBA came back from a 25 point defficit?
And another question, What do you do once you have a 25 point lead and there’s still another half a game to play?
Would you have Lebron James drive to the hoop and instead of scoring, dribble back and smile? Sportsmanship is about being honest, playing by the rules and always, always give it your best.
Now, with 30 seconds left and a lead like that, you’ll see the losing team kinda giving up on you. That’s when you stop trying, that would be disrespectful.
Other than that, no lead is ever too big.
Not in professional sports, not in amateur sports.

Posted from  United States

You are a true gentleman. I am glad you enjoyed the game.

Posted from  Canada

@ Albo,

“no lead is ever too big.
Not in professional sports, not in amateur sports”

Are you serious? I tend to agree with John………anyway GO SERBIA

Posted from  Canada

So what do you do once you’re ahead?
You stop playing?
Everybody sists down on the pitch and share their poetry?
You just tell your opponent you gotta go?

Posted from  United States

Albo I agree. Especially when you said that playing sports is about honesty (because if you’re playing worse than you can this isnt very honest) and always giving it your best.

You always hear about the cliche dumb sports jock “Going out there and giving it 110%!” This is what an athlete is (minus the dumb part hopefully, lol)

Albo ,

So what do you do once you’re ahead?

Guess I have to explain how it’s done…again disappointed in you.

Soccer …..with approx 15 min to play and a 4 goal lead replace strikers for defensive midfielders.

Basketball ….keep the 25 point lead (fluctuateto 23 - then 28) but you use the whole clock in the offensive zone.

Hockey ….slow the pace of the game down and play defensive.

“no lead is ever too big.
Not in professional sports, not in amateur sports.”

I have never heard such a ridiculous comment. You didn’t even keep it to just pro sports were you could make an argument (though a weak one) you includes amateur sports.

Shape up.

Posted from  Canada

John, I’m going to drop this topic.
If any, just to prove you that you are more stubborn than I am.
I don’t know how much you know about sports, I have practiced sports all my life, included 4 years as a professional.
I’m old fashion, like you. I love good sportsmanship. I believe in the spirit of amateur sports. I wouldn’t taunt an opponent even if they payed me.
Do some more research please.
You could even open a blog to see what people say about it.
If you play down on your opponent, if you are not giving it your best, you’re not competing honestly.
That said, best regards to you.

Posted from  United States

Chequia - Serbia : 1-3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in Chequia, against a Chequia with their best players available, but Clemente’s changes and new players have given Serbia the first win as an independent country.
Excellent goals, all three made out of superiority in game, none of them from free kick, penalty or corner shot.
Great job Clemente.

Posted from  Spain